Talk:Nick Mitchell/GA1

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Reviewer: Mm40 (talk) 03:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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• [1] gives information of his MMA record. A seemingly less-reliable source is here
  • The first link is not about this Mitchell. He was either 17 or 18 around the time that "Nick Mitchell" had his fights. And, the research that has been done to this article, there's no mention of him participating in MMA before his wrestling career. I too believed that that first link had to do with his MMA career. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
    • Well, that was dumb of me. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Don't say that, we all make those types of mistakes. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• More about his store can be found here
  • What should we say?
    • It's just another source; I'll leave it up to you to see if anything there is worthwhile. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • I don't think so. We don't need to "overshadow" Mitchell with his store. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
      • I've had a look at that article, and I don't think there's anything really usable in it. It's really talking about Wilson - and I don't think it's necessary to say "Wilson is the one who chooses the stock they sell in the store" in Mitch's article. It's more relevant to Wilson's article imo. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• Is it worth mentioning that Mitchell was, at one point, one of only two Tough Enough season 4 alumni on WWE? [2]
  • I think so.
    • Well then add something on it. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • It's in the lead. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
        • It shouldn't be in the lead, as the lead is an overview of the article. I would place it in the first subsection of Professional wrestling career
          • Added to the Tough Enough section. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• I suppose no images of Mitchell are available?
  • Nope.
    • Have you checked Flickr and other image-sharing sites? Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Nope, no images of him. Either, he's in a picture, but you can barely see him, so. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
      • I'll back this up - I ran a few searches of my own, and there are no good photos of him - not even ones that can be cropped. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Lead

• I think his nickname, "Big Time", should be placed more prominently, such as in the infobox and the lead's first sentence
  • Suggestion?
    • I'm not sure, but it needs to be somewhere in the lead and somewhere in the infobox Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Done. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• I'm not fond of the half-a-line paragraph in the lead
• The lead should be expanded a bit to include something about his personal life and football career
  • I think I got it, on points 2 and 3.

American Football career

• More background on Blinn College, particularly where it's located, should be added
  • Noted in the PL section.
• More information on his football career, at least the position he played, would be nice.
  • He played "both sides of the ball". I'm guessing he played offense and defense, but I don't want to speculate.
    • You should say in this section that he got a scholarship for Northwestern for football, as it's obviously important to his football career
      • PL section. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
        • That he played "both sides of the ball" and that he received a football scholarship should be in this section.
          • Added. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• Much more can be taken from current reference 3, such as why he was only at Blinn for two semesters, information on his MMA career (first opponent/event), information on high school, the scholarship he got from Northwestern State, details about his first TE appearance, etc. Basically, this article is on the short side, so we should be looking to add detail.
  • In the PL section.

Tough Enough and developmental territories

• Mitchell was eliminated from TE first: [3]
  • Done.
• The sentence beginning "He began wrestling under the name..." is confusing: does the name have anything to do with who he fights? I think this could be clarified by saying "other competitors included..."
  • Yes, it does.
    • Can you make the article clearer that the name change does impact who he fights, and possibly why? Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
• How did he injure his knee in Tough Enough?
  • I don't think he got injured in Tough Enough. I think you mean during his time with Deep South Wrestling. Also, the implication of the injury is not notable.
• Take out the "however" in the last sentence of the the Tough Enough section as that sentence doesn't contrast with the previous one
  • Removed.

The Spirit Squad (2006)

• Somewhat major problem: the section doesn't talk about Mitchell's role in the group at all.
  • He didn't have much a role to be honest. The Squad was really used to promote Kenny and Mikey, and the other three were just "filler" for lack of a better term. I've added that he was mainly used in a non-wrestling role for the first few months due to his injury, but there's not a whole much more I can add. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• Did Mitchell ever fight in any individual matches in WWE?
  • No, he did not. He fought along with the Spirit Squad.
• When you say "they had their WWE television debut as a group", do you mean that all five members were appearing in WWE for the first time?
  • Yes, sir... or ma'am.
    • I'm male, although you can hardly call me sir... ;) Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • I wasn't sure, I checked your userpage didn't find anything, and I didn't want to offend. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• In the first paragraph of the section on the Spirit Squad, does Shawn Michaels have a position (such as McMahon as WWE chairman)?
  • No, at the time, he was a wrestler. Now, he's retired.
• "with outside help from the other three Squad members" Can this be clarified; what did they do to help?
  • Meaning, that the three members not participating in the match interfered on their behalf.
    • Yes, I get this, but what specifically did they do? Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Interfere. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
      • They attacked one of the wrestlers. I've added this. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
• More background is needed on DX; since the article says "revive", when was the first incarnation?
  • Their last "revival" was in 2002, though it was "teased", as Triple H had betrayed Michaels.
    • Please add at least the year to the article. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Done.
• "and a clean sweep in an elimination handicap match" what is a "clean sweep"? I've heard the term in other contexts, but I'm unsure of what it means here
  • Meaning, that the team defeated all of them, without Michaels and Triple H being pinned.
• When the Squad went on a losing streak in singles matches, did Mitchell lose any matches individually? and a clean sweep in an elimination handicap match
  • No, he didn't participate in that. He was just at ringside.
• Is there any info on why WWE released him? I think I saw a blog on it, but there may be a better source.
  • I don't think so, not like, I'm not sure there is anything related to that.

Mixed Martial Arts

• As I said above, this section should be expanded
  • There's not that much info. on his MMA career.
• Since Rock Long is red-linked, would it be possible to give background on him? Such as who else he has trained, where he's based, etc.
  • Add info. about Long in Mitchell's article?
    • Yes, just a brief description. The average reader will want to know if he's trained any other successful MMA fighters. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • Added some. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Personal life

• What does "held back" mean in the first paragraph? Clarify
  • IDK what it means. It was there when I started working on the article.
    • Well if even the article writer doesn't know what it means, you should probably get rid of it. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
      • I've clarified it, hopefully that helps. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I'll finish the review tomorrow. Mm40 (talk) 03:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Full review is finished. I'm putting the article on hold to gibe you time to address the issues raised here. Mm40 (talk) 13:33, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, it's most appreciated. :) I hope I've addressed your concerns. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 17:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I've struck resolved issues and left alone everything else. Most unstruck things have replies from me below them. Mm40 (talk) 22:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I've struck more and commented on everything else. Please comment on everything you haven't commented on already. Thanks, Mm40 (talk) 14:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Think I've got the rest that 'Blue didn't get. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, as all my issues are resolved, I'm passing the article now. Thanks for your contributions, and consider reviewing an article at GAN to keep the backlog down. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 17:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)